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Where will you be next weekend?


Make plans to visit the Cycle show at the Business Design Centre in Islington, London, from Friday the 26th to Sunday the 28th September...

You can read all about last year's event in issue 8 of Velo Vision - or see the report we did for this website.

In brief - it's a great show, aimed more at utility and recreational cyclists than at racers or MTBers (though there is some of that too...)

Opening hours for the public are:

Thursday 25th Sept: 'gala evening': 17:00 - 21:00
Friday 26th Sept: 10:00 - 19:00
Sat 27th Sept: 10:00 - 18:00
Sun 28 Sept: 10:00 - 16:00

Among the exhibitors will be Velo Vision, KMX, Airnimal, ICE, Avon Valley Cycles, Airframe, Sturmey Archer, and Zero Cycles.

We hope to have the new Windcheetah Hypersport gracing our stand, together of course with all of the back issues at bargain prices (except Issue 1 - there are just six copies left!)

Other highlights include:

- The Bridgestone Moulton is expected to be on show at the Avon Valley Cyclery stand

- Sturmey Archer will be there with their new 8-speed hub gear.

- The BikeBox trailer from Canada, and the ingenious folding Carry Freedom trailer will also be launched in the UK at the show.

- Inspired Cycle Engineering will have a special 'Dream Trike' on show: here's how they describe it:

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We will be there with show trikes and demonstration machines. We will also have a very special development trike with us:- The new machine is based on the Trice Monster design but has many weight saving features. It is being produced as a "Dream Trike" with no expense spared on frame weight reducing details and the lightest components available. The trike incorporates some of the ideas that have come from ICE employee Ben Dickinson's race success on a modified XXL in the BHPC series this season. It is also fully specified with a view to serious Audax use following the success of at least 5 Trice in this years Paris-Brest-Paris 1200Km ride. The main frame is built from our normal T45 (steel) to a gauge specification for real world use for a rider of about 6' and 12st - Chris is going to test this one to see just how light we can go. All of the usual Trice features are on the machine such as adjustable seat angle, boom adjustment and handlebar adjustment, disc brakes, 20"-118" wide range gears and so on. The ready to ride road going weight is expected to be approximately 21.5lbs (9.73Kg). With special two pannier rack and full mudguards it will still be under 24lbs (10.9Kgs). If you can make it to the show, do come and see us and feel just how light it is and check out the detail. This is not yet a production trike but many of its features will become available next year."
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Going by last year, there should be much more of interest as well for the Velo Vision reader - recommended. It would be good to say hello to many readers - our stand is G2a in the Gallery hall upstairs. See you there!

Incidentally various interesting bikes will be featured on Blue Peter, BBC1, 5 pm, Wednesday, September 24th in a show promotion feature. It's partly thanks to contacts provided by Velo Vision (will we get a credit? Will we 'eck!) that the show's promoters have got Blue Peter to feature a back-to-back tandem, KMX trikes and other intersting machines.

The Velo Vision office will be closed incidentally from Tuesday (the 23rd Sept) afternoon, reopening Monday 29th September in the afternoon, as the show opens to the trade on Wednesday.

Posted on 19 September 2003

Your comments ...


  • From: Kane (deleted) on 13 September 2004
  • I've gotta see that new Windcheetah...
    When will you know for definate if it will be there?


  • From: Tom ([email protected]) on 20 September 2003
  • Company of Cyclists will be there, stand 206, plugging all sorts of cycle promotion services, the Bike Culture Week, community cycling centres and more. We'll also be playing host to an 8Freight courtesy Mr Burrows, so if you haven't seen one yet pop along. Stand 206.


  • From: Alan Smith ([email protected]) on 20 September 2003
  • A big thank you to Peter for enabling us to showcase our trike on Blue Peter next wednesday

    We have been trying for a couple of months to interest Blue Peter with our KMX but unknown to us Peter had used his influence and connections enabling us a spot on their show.


  • From: Stuart Smith ([email protected]) on 22 September 2003
  • Will the Onderwater tandemtransporter make an appearance at a UK cycle show? Bikefix, Zero, Cam-Dutchbike? Just the thing to battle the Porsche Cammacho's (sp?) on the school run. My only fear is that it may weigh the same.


  • From: Tom ([email protected]) on 22 September 2003
  • I feel really guilty now, as we have on Onderwater and a Zero, but they won't be on our stand as we're always fighting the Hippies-On-Wacky-Bikes image. They're all on the road most weekends though. And today, of course. The onderwater and Cargobike definitely weigh less than a Porsche, look far cooler, and can do one point turns in the road, (no handling under 4mph???! Phooey.)They're just not that good climing protaracted 1 in 7s. That's all!


  • From: Peter Eland ([email protected]) on 22 September 2003
  • Hi Kane, Windcheetah Hypersport is definitely confirmed for our stand :-)
    Cheers!
    Peter


  • From: Gary ([email protected]) on 22 September 2003
  • I have just learned that the organisers of the cycle show shall be donating £3 from each ticket sold for the preview evening to cancer research UK. This 'charity' funds horrendous and highly pernicious experimentations on animals. I urge anyone who was intending to visit on the preview night to either boycott or telephone the organizers to request either a different charity or no donation at all. If a ticket has already been booked, then please call anyway. There does exist many cancer research charitys which do not torture non humans, the Dr. Hadwin trust, for example, is one of them.
    Another point to make is that cycling should be considered a cause in its own right. Cars have to be replaced - preferably by HPV's. No need here to explore the arguament further I bet! To attract the maximum number of show visiters (especially car drivers awaiting 'enlightenment'!) the entrance cost should be at the absolute minimum.


  • From: Steven Brandist (email) on 22 September 2003
  • Peter,
    The whole Brandist clan will see you on Saturday. We'll pop by and say hello and perhaps let you rush off for a wee if you ask nicely :-)
    Are you near the bright young lycra dancing lovies this year?


  • From: A. Nonymous (made-up) on 22 September 2003
  • I find whacko Gary's comments offensive.

    Surely this site and subsequent comments should have a direct bearing on the subject matter and not merely express the insane veggie ramblings of anti-animal research nutters (or indeed anti-anti-animal research nutters).

    In light of this, how about moderaing both Gary's and my comment?


  • From: Steven Brandist (email) on 23 September 2003
  • Yes I agree (that Gary's a bit wacko that it).

    But since when did the comments totally stick to the subject in hand 100%?

    Almost never.


  • From: David Hembrow ([email protected]) on 23 September 2003
  • Why are Gary's comments "whacko" ? I am also a vegan and a committed cyclist. I had considered going down to London this week to go to the Cycle Show, but certainly will not be taking part due to the link with CRUK.

    This is the same reason that I didn't take part in Bike Week this year (or last). I will not support the dubious research conducted by organisations such as CRUK, conducted at considerable expense in animal suffering with very little to show as a result.

    You may or may not agree with me (or Gary) about the animal rights issues, but you surely can't think it is a positive move for pro-cycling events to exclude cyclists by forming connections with completely unrelated groups.

    Unlike Mr Nonymous, I'm quite happy to put my name on my comments. I know that I'm known to quite a few people who read Velovision and these comments. I stand by my comments. My views are a part of who I am.

    The fact remains that CRUK do take your money and spend it on vivisection. They don't like to talk about it much, as they know that publicizing what they really do would put people off contributing. This is a very sneaky way of getting money off people who otherwise would not support them, but it's what they do. Other charities tend to be proud of their activities (any secrets in Oxfam, Sustrans etc. ? )

    I would prefer cycling not to be continuously associated with the "10 miles for charidee" slur.
    For me, cycling is a lifestyle, not something I do for some unrelated purpose. This simply results in some number of mountain bikes on the back of cars coming to events. It doesn't make people use cycles as a part of their everyday life, even though doing just that would do a lot more for the average Briton's health than giving £3 to a research charity (they'd even be less likely to contract cancer).

    Cycling is a force for good in itself. We should have inclusive cycling events which encourage all cyclists without diluting this message.

    David.


  • From: Seamus ([email protected]) on 23 September 2003
  • So cycling everyday reduces the risk of cancer? Where's that bit of research come from? I've never heard or seen owt about that before.
    Reduction in risk of heart disease but risks of cancer are wholly unreleated to any exercise taken.

    Oh, and I'm also one of those nasty people who's in favour of tests on animals if it'll benefit people.

    Oh, and I also like to eat the roasted flesh of dead animals.

    Seamus


  • From: Steven Brandist (email) on 23 September 2003
  • Hey Seamus, I've had an idea! If we keep this up the place will be empty thus ensuring none of the bothersome crowds associated with shows.


  • From: David Hembrow ([email protected]) on 23 September 2003
  • Seamus, typing "exercise link with cancer" into Google gives loads of links, including these:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2339787.stm
    http://www.charitywire.com/charity10/00183.html

    So, yes. I think it is reasonable to say that it is accepted generally that exercise cuts your risk of cancer.

    If you really think you're a "nasty" person, maybe you ought to do something about it.

    David.


  • From: Seamus ([email protected]) on 23 September 2003
  • Just read the BBC link and am suitably educated and chastised thank-you David.

    Did a quick survey at work and of those asked 100% reckon I am nasty. One colleague reckons I have a degree in, "Appled Malice."

    Example of my nastiness, I find this Sheldon Brown's, "Terror Leather," very amusing...
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/carrababy.html#terrorleather


  • From: David Hembrow ([email protected]) on 23 September 2003
  • Seamus,

    Sheldon Brown's "Terror Leather" is indeed very amusing. The recumbent I've just built for the kids is probably more dangerous than the carrababy, though, so maybe I'm even nastier ?

    Anyway, we're sort of off the point. I'd really like to see cycling events be about cycling, not confusing the issue with anything else. That way we get as many cyclists as possible involved, rather than keeping some of us away due to links with other stuff we don't like.

    David.


  • From: andy scaife ([email protected]) on 23 September 2003
  • Sadly, I can't go to the show, but I'll certainly be telling the organisers that I'm boycotting it. If they want to use emotional balckmail by plugging the 'Chariddee' bit,(seems a bit like apologising for having a cycle show to me)why not Re-Cycle or Sustrans? I'm also against vivisection. I also respect the rights of others to hold a different opinion. Gary and David merely pointed out the situation in order that others may make up their minds and join a boycott if they wish. It was the 'nutter' replies that were offensive, seeming to deny him the right to his opinion. Sounds a bit over-defensive to me. If anyone feels like calling someone a nutter on this newsgroup, just remember it's illegal and offensive, and you're running the risk of losing the newsgroup for everyone.


  • From: Steven Brandist (email) on 23 September 2003
  • See what I mean Gary.

    Since when did the comments totally stick to the subject in hand 100%?

    Never.


  • From: Steven Brandist (email) on 23 September 2003
  • Seamus is indeed nasty. But then he has to put up with 'orrid kids everyday at work. Can you imagine that!

    When I met him at Spokesfest, he was telling about his idea to set up the 'King Harod Nursery School'.


  • From: Seamus ([email protected]) on 23 September 2003
  • ....and that Pol Pot had some good ideas about teachers too.


  • From: Antony (at pedalcars dot info) on 23 September 2003
  • > Seamus is indeed nasty. But then he has to put up with 'orrid kids everyday at work. Can you imagine that!

    Funny, I thought it was the other way around...

    I'm with Andy Scaife on the other though - the offensive posts are those calling others "whacko", just because they offer a valid point of view. That the poster didn't put his or her name to the comments simply shows them to be a coward in my book.

    Incidentally, if anyone's interested in my eating habits, I do like salads.

    My favourite salad dressing being, 16 ounce T-bone steak and chips.


  • From: Kane (deleted) on 13 September 2004
  • Don't forget guy's that the wacko comment was by a guy who remains Anonymous...
    One should only regard it as spam.


  • From: Steven Brandist (email) on 24 September 2003
  • I agreed earlier that Gary was a bit Whacko.

    Perhaps my definition of Whacko isn't the same as yours.

    I see myself as a bit Whacko (after all who in their right mind cycles 100 miles a week, in all weathers and enjoys it most of the time, then comes home and practices riding a unicycle).

    PS. Good bit on Blue Peter tonight!


  • From: Seamus ([email protected]) on 25 September 2003
  • Just an idle observation here.

    Who's to say anyone naming themselves on here actually is who they claim to be?


  • From: Ann Nonymous (Not telling.) on 25 September 2003
  • One of these days I'm going to get my name changed.
    I find it heartily disheartening that people belive statements made by me to be from an anonymous sorce.


  • From: Seamus II (genetically cloned) ([email protected]) on 25 September 2003
  • Well, indeed Seamus I. The 'whacko' comments earlier could have been created by absolutely anyone. In fact all 24 comments could have been created by one person.


  • From: Seamus III (whatever@wherever) on 25 September 2003
  • Oh look, a mini-bike....... http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=5167664


  • From: JT(not Seamus I, II or III) (or even IV, V, VI etc) on 25 September 2003
  • I want a mini bike - want a mini bike I want a mini bike


  • From: Kane Aston (deleted) on 13 September 2004
  • Wow!
    Even has a bottle mount!!!
    I want one too!!!


  • From: sue ([email protected]) on 29 September 2003
  • How low can you go! I thought it was fun watching butch teenagers trying to ride a micro tandem at tryout shows and failing, but this could be even more entertaining. Mind you, as a passer-by at Wolves last week pointed out, recumbents should be illegal, on account of having that sharp chain ring out front. Oh, and cars are OK, because their aerodynamic shape allows one to roll off if hit...!


  • From: Seamus (etc) on 29 September 2003
  • Recumbent mini-bike for those who haven't looked.

    Most recumbents with a boom now come fitted with a chainguard of some sort to prevent injury at ramming speed.

    Sue's comments remind me of all that guff about how bull-bars on macho 4x4's were dangerous to pedestrians conveniently ignoring the car behind the bull bars.


  • From: Antony (again) on 30 September 2003
  • Seamus, it's not that the 4x4 isn't dangerous, it's that the bull(***t) bars make the thing *more* dangerous - at any given impact speed the injuries caused by the bull bar will normally be greater than the injuries caused by an otherwise identical vehicle without them.


  • From: antony (again) on 01 October 2003
  • Wow! Just taken a look at the mini 'bent on the villagepeople - sorry, villagephotos - site. Excellent.

    NB. The only problem when I tried riding the mini tandem was the chain tension was rubbish and the chain therefore kept falling off and jamming!


  • From: sue ([email protected]) on 01 October 2003
  • I guess the only 'micro' bike that has't been produced is now the micro-unicycle... Any takers? Mind you, if it was to be fixed drive through the hub, in the manner of most unicycles, the cranks have to be soooooo short!


  • From: sue again (sa121etc...) on 01 October 2003
  • Unless you count this, and I don't, due to lack of cranks...

    http://www.sudval.org/~lilmac/miniunicycle.html


  • From: andy scaife ([email protected]) on 02 October 2003
  • I don't want to be a bike-fascist or anything, but can we talk about real bikes now, or before we know it we'll be drooling over skateboards. Minibikes are, always have been and always will be, badly designed crappy stupid-looking idiotic toys. So there!


  • From: Steven Brandist (email) on 02 October 2003
  • Bike Fascist?

    That's whacko talk.


  • From: The REAL Steven Brandist (email) on 02 October 2003
  • JUST A BLINKIN' MINUTE... I didn't actually write that, in case your wondering. Unless theres someone else out there with the same name as me (highly unlikely).


  • From: jes (@pedalcars etc) on 03 October 2003
  • I don't think you can say that minibike is badly designed.
    Perhaps it is a strange concept.
    But the design is probably quite neat.


  • From: Steven Brandist (email) on 04 October 2003
  • Hang on. Shades of Twilight Zone creeping in, doo-dee-doo-doo, doo-dee-doo-doo.

    I sent a posting and a little later someone claiming to be the real me makes a posting claiming I'm not who I say I am and no, they're not both from me.

    Doubtless the imposter will now claim to be the real REAL me. Well he's not!


  • From: Ralf Grosser ([email protected]) on 08 October 2003
  • This weekend what will I do.
    I will be out puting down all who try to do so to me.
    Markus denk mal nach!

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