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Author: Dave Holladay (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 20-01-2005 00:12
Would it be possible to get some bicycle football demonstrated in the UK?
I tried it out with Geert deWancker of Cyclobalclub Leper based in Zonnerbeke in Belgium. If we can't get the players & bikes, I wonder if there are any films or videos of games which we could persuade Roger to show at the 4th Bicycle Film Festival during Ride Leicester?
Dead good fun flicking the football around with front and rear wheels, on bikes not unlike those used for bicycle polo. I may have some pics to scan in from the time I saw it.
I think it is mostly played in the Vlaamse part of Belgium, so anyone over there offer some information?
(e-mail, website etc)
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Author: steve green (---.server.ntli.net)
Date: 20-01-2005 00:29
Is it like Bicycle-Ball? How many in a team?
B-B is a UCI recognised discipline, but it only seems to be played in the Czech Republic.
Maybe Dave's found something completely different.
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Author: Roger the Hilldodger (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 20-01-2005 07:48
We'll supply a venue if someone arranges the teams.
Roger the Hilldodger
The world's most handsome cycling historian. Probably.
Leicester's 4th best Les Gray impersonator.
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Author: Arch (---.york.ac.uk)
Date: 20-01-2005 09:04
Some colleagues and I invented a team cycle game called Hoop-cycle over the summer, involving riders carrying sticks on which they attempted to carry an old 20" tyre and place it over a cone. Players had to try and hook the tyre away with their own sticks, like jousting. Probably lethal, but fun! Perhaps we could have a bicycle olympics...
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Author: Roger the Hilldodger (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 20-01-2005 09:41
I think Ride Leicester needs a game like this!
Roger the Hilldodger
The world's most handsome cycling historian. Probably.
Leicester's 4th best Les Gray impersonator.
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Author: Arch (---.york.ac.uk)
Date: 20-01-2005 14:54
Well, that's pretty much as many rules as there were - we played it free-for-all, but you could make it a team game, with goals and rules etc... The sticks have to be round ended, for safety, unless you really want to give it an edge of danger. And it works best on really nippy bikes, with a short wheelbase.
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Author: Dave Holladay (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 21-01-2005 03:03
This was definitely a belgian game with a league of teams - I remember the team captains distinctive name ( :-) ) and the town they were from but no e-mail or telephone.
I do like the sound of some of the other games though, and when all else fails there's always bicycle polo.
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Author: Tom (---.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk)
Date: 21-01-2005 13:10
I believe that the CTC have a cache of polo bikes stored with a member in Yorkshire, doing nothing. Can't remember the location but Mr McGurn knows where they are.
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Author: gNick (---.ipt.aol.com)
Date: 21-01-2005 15:54
And you could have the Bicycle Brass Band on at half time....
gNick
Pity Me, Durham
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I'm just a primitive creature of the heath,
So excuse my savage ignorance
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Author: Andy Scaife (---.fast.net.uk)
Date: 21-01-2005 16:06
Oh come ON guys - this HAS to happen!!! Lets get those Polo bikes out of storage and find a couple of teams. York, leicester and lancaster should all be able to muster a team. maybe Scottish Borders as well! A Moultoneers team is out cos they'd just sit there criticising the design of the bikes!
lets do this, chaps!
Andy Scaife,
BikeRescue
York, UK.
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Author: Roger the Hilldodger (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 21-01-2005 18:34
See you in Leicester at the end of May, then. If you Yorkies thing you're hard enough.
Roger the Hilldodger
The world's most handsome cycling historian. Probably.
Leicester's 4th best Les Gray impersonator.
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Author: steve green (---.server.ntli.net)
Date: 21-01-2005 20:56
Whatever Dave saw in Belgium , it certainly fired his imagination.
There seem to be quite a lot of ball games adapted to being played on bikes. Everybody will have to agree on what's being played!
I DEFINITELY won't play any of them. I'm left-handed, and therefore, banned from playing Polo on safety grounds. I know I could hold the cue in my right hand, but then I'd be even more dangerous! Anyway, I am under a contractual obligation to build a boat and take it to Leicester!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What have I let myself in for? At least my wife and son find the idea amusing.
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Author: Tom (---.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk)
Date: 22-01-2005 08:01
Ah! But! If we make the game 'Rradball, where you swipe the ball with your front wheel rather than use a stick, then sinister types can join in with the dextrous.
... there's so much time, and so little to do. No, wait a minute...
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Author: Dave Holladay (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 22-01-2005 15:38
Rradball seems to fit the my description pretty well, although both front and rear wheels can be used.
Mr de Wancker where are you!
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Author: Andy Scaife (---.fast.net.uk)
Date: 24-01-2005 14:22
being sinister myself, I hadn't thought that Polo (and one-handled polo bikes) is out. Being in general an 'avant-garde' creative lot, i reckon there will be a fair few 'cuddywifters' among us. Rradball it is, then!
Andy Scaife,
BikeRescue
York, UK.
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Author: Arch (---.york.ac.uk)
Date: 24-01-2005 16:43
Or we play lefties versus righties... Mind you, I'm probably a bit of a handicap for the lefties. Or any team I'm on, due to general cowardliness. I don't think handedness is an issue with Hoop-cycle, since you can choose to carry your stick forehand or backhand so to speak - across your body or not. And anyway there are no rules, so anything goes...
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Author: Seamus (---.force9.co.uk)
Date: 24-01-2005 18:26
This all sounds rather tame.
Stick Bike. A team game where each player rides a bike whilst carrying a a 3' stick. The object of the game is tocause teams opponents to fall off by sticking their stick into their opponents front wheels. The winner is the team with most surving players at the end.
Or how about Bicycle Jousting were riders carry poity sticks, ride towards each other and try to pierce their opponents chest?
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Author: steve green (---.server.ntli.net)
Date: 24-01-2005 19:45
Seamus, all you need to win at Stick Bike is a pair of disc wheels. Probably.
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Author: Arch (---.york.ac.uk)
Date: 25-01-2005 09:07
I think we've got enough ideas for a whole bicycle Olympics! If you didn't fancy head on jousting, you could always make up one of those swinging-arm-with-a-sack-of-sand-and-a-target-things. And my gymkhana games went down quite well at the Pocklington holiday. And there's the slow bike race...
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Author: Tom (---.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk)
Date: 25-01-2005 09:45
Don't forget the Scrapyard Challenge - Yorkies versus Leicester. (Help! Which one am I these days?!)
... there's so much time, and so little to do. No, wait a minute...
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Author: Arch (---.york.ac.uk)
Date: 25-01-2005 10:00
Depends whether you're staying with my mother or not.
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Author: Andy Scaife (---.fast.net.uk)
Date: 25-01-2005 13:06
A-ha! Why not have a whole series of games at RideLeicester (isn't that what the guys on e-wing did when Piggot was in there?).
I can practice my stickbike on the local pavement-riding chavs!
Especially if one of them is riding one of Josh's stolen Moultons.
How about recumbent jousting? Careful lads!
Don't forget the old FolderForum favourite of Brompton racing. Ride it, put it through a small hole, then ride it again.
Throwing the wheel (a 28" Roadster wheel with Hub gear/dyno, just to make it challenging).
Hobby-horse racing (crankless bmx should do it).
Wheelie races.
My personal favourite and forte, Two-wheeling races for tricycles? Did it in cars once - the stupidest motor sport on earth!
Andy Scaife,
BikeRescue
York, UK.
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Author: Roger the Hilldodger (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 25-01-2005 13:32
<Why not have a whole series of games at RideLeicester
How about recumbent jousting? Careful lads! >
Andy, you can do the bloody risk assessment.
<Don't forget the old FolderForum favourite of Brompton racing. Ride it, put it through a small hole, then ride it again.>
I prefer my version. Ride it, put it IN a hole, buy a bike with proper size wheels.
<Hobby-horse racing (crankless bmx should do it).>
As I'm likely to be the only one there with a hobby horse I should win by default.
<Wheelie races.>
We're thinking of having a wheelie distance competition.
Roger the Hilldodger
The world's most handsome cycling historian. Probably.
Leicester's 4th best Les Gray impersonator.
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Author: Arch (---.york.ac.uk)
Date: 25-01-2005 16:57
<Andy, you can do the bloody risk assessment.>
"Is it risky?" "You bet!"
<We're thinking of having a wheelie distance competition.>
I can't do wheelies. Can we have a wheelie bin race instead?
Hobby horse racing would be hilarious. I once watched Tom hobbyhorsing home on a Moulton whose chain had terminally jammed in the sprocket (or something like that), after a party, and laughed my head off all the way home. It was something to do with the tiptoe-y-ness of it. Or it might have been the beer.
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Author: Wobbly John (---.gotadsl.co.uk)
Date: 25-01-2005 20:54
Bicycle olympics - Hmmmmm..... In that case I'll need a partnerfor...
...The Syncronized Spincycle event!
http://spin.xntrick.co.uk/
If it ain't broke - fix it 'til it is.
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Author: Arch (---.york.ac.uk)
Date: 26-01-2005 08:41
No doubt to the tune of the Skater's Waltz?
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Author: Andy Scaife (---.fast.net.uk)
Date: 28-01-2005 16:29
hey! SpinCycle racing!! If john doesn't mind people making their own. It would need scrutineering to ensure full spinnyness, but what a hoot, on something like an oval track!
Andy Stuff-the-U.C.I Scaife
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Author: Roger the Hilldodger (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 28-01-2005 17:30
And if there was a dead heat the winner would the person who is sick the most.
Roger the Hilldodger
The world's most handsome cycling historian. Probably.
Leicester's 4th best Les Gray impersonator.
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Author: Tom (---.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk)
Date: 02-02-2005 22:06
Have been making some enquiries, and sad to report that the CTC cache of bikes doesn't appear to be there any more. So, that's us all looking for seatposts with masses of layback, North Road steel bars and low low fixie setups then...
... there's so much time, and so little to do. No, wait a minute...
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Author: Andy Scaife (---.fast.net.uk)
Date: 04-02-2005 15:21
But Tom, you're sounding like the UCI!
Why not just leave it to everyone to bring the bike of their choosing. that would encourage original design and thinking instead of stifling the development of the sport before it has started....Like the UCI do!
I think Moultons will prove popular, especially if you leave the front rack on as a bumper! At least I'm HOPING they will be, having a garage full!
Andy Scaife,
BikeRescue
York, UK.
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Author: Tom (---.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk)
Date: 04-02-2005 16:41
Well, whether I sound like the UCI depends on whether the contest is between the teams' skill or the design of their bikes or both.
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