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CONTENTS
4 News
Remembering Gardner Martin, Human Power archive, new Trice models and more
10 Interbike 2004
First section of our mammouth report from Vegas
14 'Bent for less
A reader compares two second-hand recumbents
16 Cycling on Venus
Examining 21st century Londoners' attitudes to women in cycling
19 Topped up with bikes
How just 72 hours of bike tuition made a big community difference
20 Cycle 2004
An exciting new folding bike and more at London's show
22 Small is beautiful
Mike Burrows and Ian Sims discuss a hot topic for HPVers: short cranks
24 Thrifty three wheelers
Two new owners give their impressions of the adult KMX trike
26 Moulton magic?
The Bridgestone Moulton put through its paces...
30 Airnimal action
Taking Airnimal's budget model, the Joey, for a spin
32 Book reviews
Urban cycling, American travel and Marthaler marvellous picture book
34 Short reviews
Riding the 5.8kg minibike, a hideaway mirror and more...
36 Interbike Part Two
Continuing the coverage: inventions from pedals to sidecars
44 Letters
Weddings, velomobile feedback, the Xevon - all this and more in your letters and emails
50 Buyer's Guide: Load-carrying
New and updated - we return to the subject of pedal-powered haulage.
56 Subscribe to Velo Vision, order calendars and back issues
57 Adverts
The best, most interesting advertising around. Please support the companies who support this magazine.
66 The Back Page
NEW! Cycling crossword, a cartoon, and Spot the Difference!
Posted on 08 December 2004
Your comments ...
| From: Olivier Sels ([email protected]) on 29 November 2004 | Great Peter! Always looking forward to this message on the screen! I hope there are some nice bikes/trikes in the load carying article, as that is my project for 2005! Regards and keep up the good work!
Olivier
Leuven, Belgium |
| From: John Shackford (@home!) on 29 November 2004 | Peter, You've done it again! Done what? Got me all excited and in waiting for this to arrive. Christmas is nearly here so it will be my renewal dua again I think. I remember the first issue and at the time thinking that I would give it a go for a couple issues. Here we are all this time later and I still am looking forward to the next issue and indeed reading through the back issues too.
Best regards,
John.
http://www.pbase.com/john28july |
| From: Arch (@KM) on 29 November 2004 | Ooooh, a crossword! A cartoon! A Spot the Diff... Oh Lord, is it one of Jason's? Even so, I shall be awaiting the mag eagerly...
(BTW, it's 'mammoth', not 'mammouth'- I had to check yesterday to mark some essays....) |
| From: Wobbly John ([email protected]) on 29 November 2004 | | Mammouth - perhaps that's the American spelling? |
| From: Arch (still@KM) on 29 November 2004 | | Ah, so that would be what they do with all the 'u's they drop from words like colour... |
| From: S (etc) on 29 November 2004 | Mamouth means loudmouth, or so I've ben led to believe.
and here's some more good news, my employer's computer network is going to be shut down tomorrow so you won't have to put up with me (or my pseudonymses posting on here much until 2005.
Frack! that also suggests BKN22 (september 2004) won't appear until next year. |
| From: S (etc) on 29 November 2004 | | ..... whereas Mammouth means something else altogether and it's very rude. |
| From: jase ([email protected]) on 29 November 2004 | | Spot the cycling personality as much as the difference. Any prizes for the winner ?? Pete ?? The tie breaker question is "in which village was the foto taken" ?? |
| From: S (etc what does, "foto,"mean?) on 29 November 2004 | | what does, "foto,"mean? |
| From: Jacob impotent (from Sodastream) on 29 November 2004 | | lazy spelling of photo perhaps. |
| From: Steven Brandist (ste..) on 29 November 2004 | Dear me Peter. This will never do.
A front cover with a, and I can hardly bring myself to type it, a caravan. Oh deary me. |
| From: you (yup) on 29 November 2004 | thats not a caravan that Mr Burrows latest creation!
A four person sleepover, towable trailer/freight carrier thing.
Tut, don't you know anything! |
| From: John Shackford (@home alone) on 30 November 2004 | Its not even my caravan, which would have made the photograph well worthwhile!
John. |
| From: Arch (@KM already and it's not 9 yet) on 30 November 2004 | "thats not a caravan that Mr Burrows latest creation!
A four person sleepover, towable trailer/freight carrier thing."
Presumably with a monoblade jockey wheel... |
| From: Span Tally ([email protected]) on 30 November 2004 | | "mammouth" is a French hypermarket chain. No, really. |
| From: David Hembrow (hembrow@someplace) on 30 November 2004 | | I'm not so interested in the caravan. I want to know what the spare wheel is doing chasing the guy on the bike... |
| From: Maquise d'Egville ([email protected]) on 30 November 2004 | | It obviously has monostay wheels, so has to be a Burrows creation |
| From: Marquise d'Egville ([email protected]) on 30 November 2004 | | It is not a spare wheel - and nor is it a bike - it is the new Airnimal virtual trike - the third wheel is a virtual wheel - - to save weight and space when the trike is demounted - and is only semi-visible at the best of times. |
| From: S (etc) on 30 November 2004 | | M. Burrows when Stuart broke his carbon fibre shopper on the hill climb at Cyclefest tee-hee |
| From: andy scaife ([email protected]) on 01 December 2004 | Ahhh another chance for the yorkies to play 'spot the location'.
Maple Grove or Broadway West, Peter?
makes a change from St Nicks!
I nthink next years York Rally 'Visionaries gathering' should be a guided tour round Velovision photo locations. |
| From: Peter Eland ([email protected]) on 01 December 2004 | Not sure where the mammouth came from - it was mammoth in the version that got sent to the printers :-)
No prizes this time for the puzzle page - the crossword is a bit too easy. I'm offering �20 for readers to send in better ones, and might add a caption comp too, so maybe next time...
Andy - not even close. A clue is that the street in question was conveniently (and unusually) traffic free in late November...
Cheers!
Peter
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| From: Arch (still@km) on 01 December 2004 | | Ah! Burst water main? |
| From: Crispin ([email protected]) on 02 December 2004 | Completely off-topic, but....
Today's New Scientist (4th Dec) has an article on HPVs. "The speed freaks of Battle Mountain" |
| From: Lord Elpus (@elpus manor) on 02 December 2004 | In order for me to extract the fullest enjoyment from this issue, Blenkinsopp, my 93 year old Butler, will be conveying its contents to me by way of a pantomime.
He is currently casting the leading roles and would welcome
suggestions from readers as to who should play the characters.
Lord Elpus, Elpus Manor.
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| From: Bryan Ball ([email protected]) on 03 December 2004 | | I actually think that image in the back is the infamous "Cycling Ghost of London". Really... I saw it on Scooby Doo once and he looked just like that... |
| From: Legs Larry ([email protected]) on 03 December 2004 | Today's New Scientist (4th Dec) has an article on HPVs. "The speed freaks of Battle Mountain"
And it has some of MY photos accompanying it, so let's have a little more respect from you chimney-reeking paupers :-) |
| From: andy scaife ([email protected]) on 03 December 2004 | Errr........
I can't rest till I've got this one. great idea to extend the new puzzle page to the front cover Peter.
So is it also conveniently close to your office then? I saw Ash in town an hour ago - should have asked him.
(Non yorkies - Ash is cyclone courier and cover model - often appears in riding shots owing to youthful blond looks - B*****D!)) |
| From: Robert Nichols (Q@sshh-secret) on 03 December 2004 | Legs Larry ([email protected])
Now then 00531! Your Russian surely isn't so rusty as to forget that death in Russian is 'smert'? Anyhow, good luck in Operation Luncheon Meat - you should find that a dose of botulin (as produced by bad canning practice)will do the trick, and you can always use a sharpened spoke if you break the hypo.
Cheers,
Q. |
| From: dylan (dt@york) on 04 December 2004 | | peter i think the pic is from 5th ave (york). a bit more info on ash the guy in the pic is from cyclone couriers for 2 years in york and it was his larst day on friday 3rd as he has got the traveling bug now (nice tuch peter) he will be missed by all in york. good luck ash and keep happy. from all @loadbikes.york |
| From: andy scaife ([email protected]) on 06 December 2004 | Hear Hear... never will an 8-freight go so fast again!
A gratuitous gloat now..... following my recent coupo at the Council tip, yealding a Moulton APB and a Pashley trike (not as good as Tom Riley's SpeedSix, but there y'go), Yesterday's harvest included a reasonable 5-speed Brompton! Yup, they're chucking out Brommies now!
I've dog dabs on the first Principia Rex they get in. |
| From: Arch (@KM) on 06 December 2004 | YOU FOUND A BROMPTON AT THE TIP!?!?!
Talk about luck. That's it, I'm not speaking to you now. |
| From: Arch (@uni) on 07 December 2004 | | ...unless you are planning to sell the Brom...? |
| From: norti rascal (@hmp.com) on 07 December 2004 | | The first person had the right idea - chuck it back on the tip. Nasty little things. |
| From: Tom (loafing@themanor) on 07 December 2004 | | How are the Bekaks holding up, Rog? |
| From: RtH (working bloody hard) on 07 December 2004 | | They're doing OK, Tom. |
| From: andy scaife (bikerescueblahblah) on 07 December 2004 | Bekaks? Chuck em on the tip, nasty little things!
Get a proper rickshaw! |
| From: andy scaife (baiting@arch4fun) on 07 December 2004 | | Well... I MIGHT be persuaded....you'd have to be very nice to me though. It's already in pieces for rebuild. You will have to persuade me quickly to choose your colour, otherwise it will be metalflake aubergine with silver extremities! |
| From: RtH (Atcyclewhatever) on 07 December 2004 | Bekaks? Chuck em on the tip, nasty little things!
Nasty BIG thinks!
Get a proper rickshaw!
Got them too. |
| From: Arch (@km) on 07 December 2004 | Metalflake aubergine....? Oh, Lord! Actually I have in mind that a carefully rendered spinal column would suit that single tube, and go nicely with my Foska Bones jacket...
As for being nice, I was just going to go for the easy option and offer money... (as the bishop said to the actress etc...)
Next time you're at the tip, can you get me a Mini (proper, not New), and a Citroen DS please? |
| From: Norti Rascal (@hmp.com) on 07 December 2004 | | I know where there's a DS abandoned in a garden. The owner can't be ars...bothered to fix it. Meet me in Leicester one dark night wearing black. |
| From: steve green (***********************) on 07 December 2004 | One of my mates noticed that the garage of the house opposite was occupied (unlike the house, which had been empty for years); by an Aston Martin DB4...
We were tempted...
But the DS would be better!
How does Andy do it? I only ever find rubbish. |
| From: Le Arch (@KM) on 08 December 2004 | Ah, chere Norti! Vous avez le voiture de ma dreams? Je will meet vous sous le clock de le town hall a midnuit. Je will be wearing un carnation rouge. Le password est "De Gaulle!" (Naturallment...). Apres reading le message, mange la.
(With MANY, MANY apologies to any French readers... ;-) ) |
| From: Arch (@KM) on 08 December 2004 | As for how Andy gets all the best stuff at the tip, I think there are several possibilities:
1. He lives there.
2. He has a hotline connection to the tip, and can be called at a moments notice to get stuff.
3. He has made a pact with some deity or other.
4. He's just a lucky b.........
;-) |
| From: Tom (Skiving@desk...) on 08 December 2004 | | Andy, the point about Bekaks is: Ceci n'est pas un Rickshaw: C'est un Art de Vivre! |
| From: Legs Larry (smert.spamionam@privacy,net) on 08 December 2004 | | Ah. If only Citroens had been built by Mercedes. Then I should still have a CX, which was a sight better for transporting bicycles than anything else before or since. Bah! |
| From: Simon ([email protected]) on 08 December 2004 | Chaps,
Je suis delighted to learn that I'm not the only Brommie riding Cit and Mini 1 fan!
I'm currently rebuilding 'the last of the BXs' - a 1992 1.6 TXS. A new head gasket and the odd new sphere here and there and it will be luverrly again.
Rugby tip is pretty good too, although I haven't found a Moulton there yet (mores the pity...). But scrap yards are better for wonderful old cars - at least Rugby's is. How about this for a recent list of cars for sale from it: Lotus Elan +2; Triumph Stag; Sunbeam Alpine; Very early, but still recoverable peoper Mini and always several Alfas in all shapes and sizes.
If anyone wants directions, or to be taken down there for a look-see, drop me a mail.
Now I'm just off to the tip to see if anyone's got rid of a Lotus Elise they were tired of...
SP
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| From: Andy Scaife ([email protected]) on 08 December 2004 | Oh dear, maybe I shoiuldnt mention the '74 DS21 Super5 I got for �200! that was a while ago though (about 40 cars ago i think). Having rallied Minis (only after very generous offers and lack of alternatives), including the Historic Monte-Carlo which entailed taking a 1959 850 over the pyrenees in February, I never wish to ride in one of those little horrors again! Biscuit tin strapped to a skateboard!
Love Deuches though, and would swap any number of bikes for a Citroen H. Funnily enough, watched 'Very Annie-Mary' last night, so fire rekindled! |
| From: andy scaife ([email protected]) on 08 December 2004 | | The crossover between Moulton owners and Citroen fans is quite marked. The author of one of the 2CV books is prominent in the Moulton Club. The founder of Moulton Preservation has some lovely Citroens, and even Dr M has a mint XM to go with his Bentley (and a couple of unusual Minis, too). The Moultoneers group went of on a classic car thread once, and it all got silly, so I think we should stop now, before this site ends up boasting a link to bbc.co.uk/topgear! |
| From: Tom ([email protected]) on 08 December 2004 | | Strange how so many prominent cyclists and cycle promoters have a thing for petrol too. It's only the rare one or two, like Pete, who seem to be . Would be nice to think this came down to an interest in engineering/underlying form/how things work, which is what marks one out as a member of the awkward squad anyway. |
| From: Roger the Hilldodger (@ the Leicester Mercury) on 08 December 2004 | You calling me a petrol head, Riley?
Mmmmm.....Castol R. |
| From: Tom ([email protected]) on 08 December 2004 | | Silkolene neocortex, perhaps, then, Rog. |
| From: Bob MacQueen ([email protected]) on 08 December 2004 | Damn Andy you have unmasked me! Yes it was I in a past life who wrote "The Life and Times of the 2CV". Am a refromed character now - only one Deuch - but it does have two engines!
Many Brommie owners seem to own 2CVs as well, must be some mental think - is it in the DNA/
Bob |
| From: Arch (@KM) on 08 December 2004 | "I never wish to ride in one of those little horrors again!" How rude! Very well Andy, if I ever do get a Mini, and you need a lift, you can ride tied to the roof...
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| From: Tom (persued_by@bear) on 08 December 2004 | | So much for keeping up being nice to Andy, Sue! |
| From: Arch (@KM) on 08 December 2004 | | Doh! |
| From: steve green (555555555555555555) on 08 December 2004 | Sorry, Andy!
I prefer to travel as follows;
by bike,
on foot,
by train,
or not at all.
The "Top Gear" method comes way down in my priorities, so I'll stick to making derogatory remarks about tin boxes and their contents. |
| From: Andy Scaife ([email protected]) on 08 December 2004 | Good on you Steve. I think this car chat has gone on long enough.
BTW, Sturmey, if I needed a lift I'd probably have a broken bike with me and where would that go in one of those useless tin cans? At least a 2CV carries bikes!
I'd just call BikeRescue and that bloke with the bright red spiky hair would fetch a Brompton on a trailer. |
| From: TestaRossa (bikerescue etc) on 08 December 2004 | Er... I forgot none of you have seen my xmas hairdo!
Just spotted the change in header, looks like we'll be racing each other round to StNicks in the morning!!! |
| From: Bryan Ball ([email protected]) on 09 December 2004 | | Trying to be better about the auto-thing... Sold my car and just got a Cab-Bike. The better half still has a planet-destroyer though. A BMW 525ix Touring that burns WAY too much gas but is SOOOOOOOO comfy and fun to drive for a combi. |
| From: ian fardoe (neverin@car) on 09 December 2004 | to get away from all the talk about 4 wheel coffins,
who likes the look of the new trices?
the one based one the XXL looks good value. |
| From: Alex ([email protected]) on 09 December 2004 | Oh look un nice Citroen H, oo's going to give me zeir bike and eldest fill for ze zing ?
Personally I like ze Mini and can confirm zat you can get a KMX trike on ze top of ze buzzing biscuit tin. |
| From: Tom ([email protected]) on 09 December 2004 | | Wow! You mentioned H's before Andy or I did! Starting to recommission mine in the new year, (damn useful for moving fleets of tandems, etc). Mike Simms in the VCC is a prominent H-vanner, too. Surely you wouldn't need to hawk the eldest child for a scrapyard example?? |
| From: no more andy (........) on 09 December 2004 | | I was thinking this is a bike mag/www not a chat room for TOP GEAR ive been on my hols for 1 month come back and want to see what is going on in the BIKE world and all i get is this andy s going on obout CARS cars on a BIKE www what is going on this is velovision one of the best hpv mags going. peter if you know this so called andy s can you tell him/her to stop. if i wish to know obout cars ill go and get one but i live by the bike and ill d-- by the bike (sorry rant over). |
| From: Simon (Brom@largeinrugby) on 09 December 2004 | |
| From: Simon (Brom@largeinrugby) on 09 December 2004 | I think it is healthy that we discuss cars in this forum. The majority of us use cars and some of us even appreciate good car design. It is through forums like this that we can discuss ways of reducing our dependancy on the car and boosting bicycle use even further. Velovision is about bikes as transport, so it's inevitible that the bicycle's competitor, i.e. the car, is discussed.
My own recent success in this area is that I have reduced the use of my car from 16,000 miles between 2002 and 2003 down to 8,000 miles between 2003 and 2004 (I know because I've just had to MOT my daily driver and I'm comparing the mileage on the last two MOTs).
This 8,000 a year saving came about by me using my bikes more and from taking inspiration from Velovision, AtoB and from the people who write in to this forum.
A lot of us are petroholics - and it's only by admitting it that we can helped(!) So please, all of you who are already car-free, keep the good advice coming...
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| From: Tom ([email protected]) on 09 December 2004 | | I note that the barely literate ranter doesn't dare put his/her name to the message. See my earlier comment about those who do a lot for cycling tending to have a petrol tendency as well, though it's worth noting that most of us in that bracket use cars for fun and not for work. My rant over now, so i'll go back to work, (for cycling). (Like Andy). |
| From: Andy Scaife (bikeRescueblahblah...) on 09 December 2004 | Well, well! Is it me or were there more messages than this an hour ago? Well I did implore you that we should stop talking about cars on here!
The New Velovision is another literary tour-de-force of course! Lots of piccies of the usual suspects, too. My Thursday has been competely lost now, and I've had far too much caffiene sitting in the coffee shop reading about bikes. Some of the alternative stuff at interbike gave food for thought to my Euro-centric perspective (did that make any sense?). I have to point out the fine specimen of babyhood in the letters page, although he's nearly grown out of the thing by now! Wonder how young you can get them on a Like-a-Bike |
| From: Simon Ward ([email protected]) on 09 December 2004 | Since when did owning and riding a bike preclude owning and/or appreciating cars? Is this some law or charter that's passed me by?
FWIW, I can't drive, own several bikes (including two custom-built beauties) but also appreciate a good car when I see one (like a friend's BMW 5-series, or a Caterham Super-7 I've seen around York a few times - nice!)
If people don't like the fact that this is a free discussion forum, for cars, bikes or otherwise, then I'm sure there are plenty of other places they can go. Those are the facts - deal with it.
The reason that there is no moderation in these fora is because, many moons ago, Pete and I came to the conclusion that most readers would be able to behave in an adult manner. I'm hoping we don't get proven wrong. |
| From: andy scaife ([email protected]) on 09 December 2004 | If my posting above seems puzzling it was due to tech probs on my machine...sorry!
Anyway, I've now seen my flaming. Why me then? I was not the first to manetion cars (Step forward Dr Arch!), and I suggested we stop at least twice. seems the ranter couldn't scroll back to see that.
I often notice in out local paper that the anti-cyclist brigade never seem to do even the most basic research. Maybe those who like to 'vent their spleen' don't want to let the facts get in the way of a good strop.
I notice the person who is shouting at me is not brave enough to identify him/her self, so they obviously don't believe in honest debate either. thanks Simon, Tom et al for your contribs... I owe you a pint. (round my place for Top Gear on Sunday guys?). |
| From: andy scaife ([email protected]) on 09 December 2004 | OK, a bit off-topic, but my tech prob today stopped my joining the Brompton group on Yahoo, so I'm going to ask a STRICTLY BIKE question...
Has anyone renewed the rear pivot bush on a Brommie? I have the bush, and am about to do the job, but the fact that Brompton supply a drill bit with their bush kit concerns me! Is there anything I should know? Neither of the York Brompton dealers have done the job before. Mail me off-list if you prefer, on [email protected] |
| From: Peter Eland ([email protected]) on 09 December 2004 | Looks like it might soon be time to activate the forum which Simon programmed a while ago - that will allow people to discuss stuff not directly related to stories I post. I'll get on to it shortly.
Anyway, I've been too busy mailing to worry overly about this drifting off-topic - with a bit of luck you'll all have your mags very shortly and can then return to discussing the contents :-)
All subscriber copies are now in the post, and all consignments for overseas distributors are packaged up ready to be bike-trailered to the post office tomorrow AM. Extra copies for contributors and advertisers, plus any misc others, will go out tomorrow.
Cheers!
Peter
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| From: Andy Scaife ([email protected]) on 09 December 2004 | | ...and you will not be disappointed! |
| From: Arch (@KM) on 10 December 2004 | Yes, I noticed that Andy was getting stick for the follow up to my originally jokey comment. Sorry Andy. As I recall, lots of these comment strings have 'progressed' way off topic and covered all kinds of nonsense, so it's interesting that when the subject is cars, it gets under someone's skin. A symptom of a human need to classify and identify other people perhaps: all too often the classification is far too simplistic -'cyclist', 'motorist', 'pedestrian' etc, when we can all be all these things and many more. I have real trouble seeing past bad grammar and punctuation for example. ;-)
Anyway, now that the mags are in the post, we'll all be too busy reading them to post stuff (about cars or anything), so the problem disappears.
As for the general forum, I'd love it, but it might be responsible for me failing ever to complete my PhD... |
| From: steve green (lunatic@large) on 10 December 2004 | Ian Fardoe,
Do you mean the IceQ and IceT? I saw them at the Cycle Show in London, and was very impressed.
One impressive feature is the wide range of rider sizes that will fit. I have a 36inch inside leg (for sizing bikes, not trousers!). The IceQ as exhibited was just about right for me as exhibited. That's a big plus for ICE, because most bicycle manufacturers don't reaaly cater for my size. ( Gorilla arms and huge feet, too. Musical friends used to sing a Fats Waller song, just for me.)
One surprise was that I preferred the sitting position on the Q. I assumed that as I have back problems ( this post is not intended to be a whinge), I would be more comfortable on the model T, but the Q FELT a lot better.
Now, I need to have a test ride to get a good idea oft these machines. I rode a KMX at the show and it was FUN! (I could JUST get in...)
I've tried recumbent bikes and got nowhere, except the ground. I'd still like to learn to ride a bike, but I find the trike a more logical version.
Perhaps bike vs trike can replace wheelchairs for the able bodied as a topic?
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| From: andy scaife (squinting@page) on 10 December 2004 | Errr....... I hate to complain, but.......
The Rex KMX cartoon looks beautifully drawn, but I can't read it! It's just too tiny. Would it be possibly to post it on the website for us old giffers to read? |
| From: andy again.. (errrrr..) on 10 December 2004 | OK now a compliment to balance out the above.
Today's (friday) ad at the page top is for Wallingford bike parts. Go have a look at the lovely Berthoud and sogreni bits on there. It nearly made me cry! |
| From: Elrey ([email protected]) on 10 December 2004 | | So, Peter, how soon can we in far-flung lands expect to see our copies? Need to know when to get out the whip if the post box comes up empty ... |
| From: Peter Eland ([email protected]) on 10 December 2004 | Some mainland Europe readers have theirs already :-). Most foreign ones went out Wednesday, some Thursday, all airmail of course on a notional 3-5 day service (with a following wind... and probably not at Xmas!)
So if you subscribe with me direct, you should expect it (worldwide) by the end of next week or so. If you get the mag via Calhoun, Greenspeed, Zephyr, KGB or other distributors, it might take a few weeks longer I'm afraid.
Andy - yes, sorry about that. Didn't dare shrink the spot-the-diff pics, the crossword was a bit bigger than expected, and it all got a bit squashed. Will check with KMX for permission next week re posting a bigger version online.
Cheers
Peter |
| From: ian fardoe (@work but soon in the pub ) on 10 December 2004 | Steve green,
No I meant the 2 *NEW* as in brand new ICE trikes,
if people hadn't been perving over nasty french rustbuckets then they might have noticed earlier!
dirty dirty habit, stop it'll make you ill ;-)
ICE S based on the XXL
http://www.ice.hpv.co.uk/trikes_s.htm
ICE L based on the pixie
http://www.ice.hpv.co.uk/trikes_l.htm
Now isn't that better, quick fix of trike pr0n to take yer mind off those nasty coffin things,
cmon, you know you can beat the addiction. :-) |
| From: ian fardoe (@work but soon in the pub ) on 10 December 2004 | Just had a look at the Wallingford site, can anyone else see anything wrong with the inclinometer?
nice graded scale but lacking the essential,
sod that I'm pushing line!
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| From: Arch (@KM) on 10 December 2004 | | Oh oh oh! Just had a look at the Ice S! Drool... I'm starting to feel a very silly decision coming on... |
| From: Arch (@gain) on 10 December 2004 | Re: the inclinometer...
I find I can quite accurately judge the scale of a hill, and so can anyone stuck behind me... ;-) |
| From: andy sutcliffe (fanning the flames) on 11 December 2004 | Here's a link for any recumbent trike owners who want a car, just like there ride:
http://www.3wheelers.com/grinnal.html
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| From: Mike D... no more andy... (this is good) on 11 December 2004 | | A big sorry to all and andy s my hols were bad and i was wanting a good chat on vv but i got cars so i needed to rant and the kicking i got put me in my place thank you to you all but now we have got back bikes good.im coming over to the uk for 4days hoping to see (ice) as im in need of one for my xmas presant then im going over to the land of oz to see good old (green speed) to get one for my wife. p.s. andy i met you at the larst ctc rally in york hope B.R. is going well |
| From: Simon Hartley ([email protected]) on 11 December 2004 | Excellent producy reviews as usual, but I suspect that the microscopic folder with solid whwwls may not be street-legal in th UK. The reason is that the brakes work by pressing on the tyre, which is only permitted with a fixed wheel, eg a high-wheeler.
By the way, if Andy Scaife happens to find a Christiania trike at his local tip, could he drop me a line? |
| From: Mike Armitage (marmit3759@aol,com) on 11 December 2004 | | Peter Where did you get that Tom Riley latex mask you're wearing while you were doing the Bridgestone Moulton review on P 26 |
| From: Roger the Hilldodger (cyclemagic) on 11 December 2004 | | I want one!! |
| From: Andy Sutcliffe (@home) on 11 December 2004 | | What the Grinnall Scorpion? |
| From: Andy Sutcliffe (Still@Home) on 11 December 2004 | | ...Or the Tom Riley mask!? |
| From: RtH (suuny Leicester) on 12 December 2004 | | Both. |
| From: Mike Boxwell ([email protected]) on 12 December 2004 | I'd spent a very enjoyable couple of days working my way through the back issues of Velo Vision, thinking of ideas for my new bike...
Just when I finished, what should drop through my letter-box but the latest edition. Fantastic!
As ever, some great articles giving me lots to think about. And for my next bike? I'm working on a one-off designed to look like an 1890s-style cycle-car... |
| From: Roger the Hilldodger (ride Leicester hat) on 12 December 2004 | That's just the sort of thing we'd like to see at Ride Leicester. :-)
I'm working on a new water cycle based on a Penny Farthing. Silly. Very Silly :-) |
| From: Tom (Pouting@the camera) on 12 December 2004 | It's amazing what you can flog to cyclists on Ebay, guys. My next product will be a Mike Burrows wig.
Ride Leicester on, then, Rog? |
| From: Roger the Hilldodger (@home) on 12 December 2004 | Imagine the fun we could have with that V8 Transit and 3 Tom Riley's sitting in the front!
Had a bit of a rant over Ride Leicester and meetings have been held and fingers pulled out! |
| From: Tom (Chuckling@theimage) on 12 December 2004 | Petrolhead. Definitely. SSSH about cars, you'll set 'em all off again.
Glad the future of RL is looking more certain. I'll have to get on with me tallbike now... |
| From: Arch (Back@KM) on 13 December 2004 | "Excellent producy reviews as usual, but I suspect that the microscopic folder with solid whwwls may not be street-legal in th UK."
Or indeed remotely desirable! I think I'd feel safer on a micro scooter. ;-)
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| From: Span Tally ([email protected]) on 13 December 2004 | | Mike Burrows wig? Pah! We're working on the Burrows Aero-Nose(tm). Available in upright and recumbent models, in the shops shortly after Easter 2005. |
| From: Tom ([email protected]) on 13 December 2004 | | Hell! What we going to get Arch for Christmas now? |
| From: Norti Rascal (@hmp.com) on 13 December 2004 | | I hear a well known cyclist will be celebrating another birthday on wednesday. |
| From: steve w (steve,[email protected]) on 13 December 2004 | luvly issue!!
Definatly like the idea of the cover mounted Human power archive CD. |
| From: Arch (@KM) on 13 December 2004 | "Hell! What we going to get Arch for Christmas now?"
See my previous comment about the ICE S..? ;-)
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| From: Tom ([email protected]) on 13 December 2004 | | How about we get you an RSJ, a pram, a hacksaw and then lend yot a MIG welder? |
| From: Arch (@KM) on 16 December 2004 | | Was it only me noticed, but the person who drew the KMX cartoon has a rather loose grasp of bovine anatomy... 7 teats on a udder? ( if only there were normally 8, I could say "Where's the udder one?") |
| From: andy scaife (back@last) on 16 December 2004 | Mike D - yes i remember you at the rally. See, i wasn't in a car (I no longer own one).
Andy, I refuse to be drawn into any discussion on Grinnall Scorpions on this site!
Roger, the V8 transit didn't even tempt me in... I'm being a good little cyclist, I promise! (did have a 3.5 Tranny as a service brge once tho...oh NOW look what I've done!).
And if I find a Christiania at the tip, Josh Parker already has first dibs!
Like he bought the one we (the Wheel Alternatives co-op as was) were given 2 years ago!
Legend has it that Mick Thomas turned up to start the local newspaper delivery contract, with the first 2 Maximus trikes, and a Christy was spotted in the corner of the newspaper depot. Mick and Chris were duly asked to take it away! You see, it's not just me! |
| From: andy scaife (looking@velovision) on 16 December 2004 | I see that at the end of the Bridgestone Moulton test, Peter (presumably having removed the mask) drops in the teasing statement "...Perhaps an old F-frame."
Well, I hereby offer the loan of my winter Moulton, (a sound '63 Standard with Brompton wheels) for a couple of weeks, Peter. I have a sneaking feeling you will be smitten, especially on returning to the Saracen 'tractor'! |
| From: Mary Arneson (udderlypuzzled@dairystate) on 16 December 2004 | | NOT that I have my Velovision yet :-(, but writing from the dairy state of Minnesota, I suggest that the KMX cartoon could be captioned "where'd she get the udder three?" |
| From: Peter Amey ([email protected]) on 16 December 2004 | The Moulton review included a bit about the MKS removable pedals. Readers might be interested in my SPD modification of these which I use on my Brompton.
www.amey.org.uk/bicycles/RemovableSPDPedalProject/
Apparently official MKS removable SPDs are in the pipeline (but they have been there a long time)! |
| From: Arch (@km) on 17 December 2004 | | Mary, you hit on exactly the joke I was grasping for! |
| From: Kevin D ([email protected]) on 22 December 2004 | Grinnall Scorpion Trikes?
2 seat recumbent ! (BMW Petrol powered)
British Built very nice ..very very very quick!!
some velovision readers own them...
I wonder who ? Merry Xmas from D.TEK
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